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FILIATION HAS BEEN EXPRESSLY RECOGNIZED BY THE FATHER??

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nitz


Arresto Menor

Attorney, question on "filiation has been expressly recognized by the father." Is this applicable also if I'm still pregnant?








Last edited by nitz on Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:16 pm; edited 1 time in total

nitz


Arresto Menor




Attorney, question on "filiation has been expressly recognized by the father." Is this applicable also if I'm still pregnant?



and follow-up questions po


How to establish or prove filiation? Are the following can be used as evidence for filiation?

a) Text Messages here Abroad, he text me "magbbgay ako kahit masesaryan ka mabuhay lang anak ko" referring to the child I am carrying now. The father of my child changed his mobile number but his old number text messages have been saved

b) Yahoo Messages save at “MESSAGE ARCHIEVE” (recognizing and acknowledging that he is the father of my child I am carrying now he said several times "anak ko yan or ako ang ama")

c) Emails (using his wife Yahoo Account)

d) Deposited money in my Bank Account for Prenatal Expenses.

e) The Father Signed the OFFICIAL RECEIPT of Prenatal Expenditures.



2) To prove that he is the father is by DNA Testing. He refused to take his DNA Testing when the Consular Assistant of the Philippines Embassy scheduled him to do it in a reliable laboratory. If I will file for Petition for Compulsory Recognition in the Philippines how can we ask the father to take the DNA Testing if he is Abroad? And what will happen if the father refused to take the DNA Testing?


attyLLL


moderator

nitz, please try to avoid opening more than one thread for your related questions. it is easier for us to answer when we can look up the history. it's hard to remember all the details.

the evidence you mention are good evidence. i think there will be enough to establish prima facie that he is the father even without the dna test which can come later when he come home here.

i recommend that you get a certification from the consular officer stating the story of what happened before him and the guy's refusal to take a dna test so you can present that also. i recommend that you file an economic violence case. good luck.

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nitz


Arresto Menor

Thank you attorney for the reply. Actually now the father of my child refused to communicate with us. The Consular Asst. was trying to call him but he don't answer his cellphone anymore.

Tinakot ako magsasampa din daw po ng kaso wife niya ng laban sa akin ng CRIMINAL CASE FOR MORAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL DAMAGES, sabi po nagkaphobia na daw siya. Nagsasabwatan pa silang mag-asawa pag inilaban ko sa korte ang kaso ikakaso din ako ng wife at tinatakot po ang ama ng baby ko na hihiwalayan siya pag pumirma 'to sa AFFIDAVIT. . Pero siya po ay pinatawad na ng wife at nagsasama na sila ulit.

Kung sa kaling napatunayan na hindi siya nagbigay ng suporta sa baby, nagdadalawang-isip po ako if itutuloy ko ang pagsampa ng kaso laban sa ama ng baby ko dahil magsasampa din kaso sa akin laban ang wife. Sa ganitong situwasyon po may karapatan po ba na makialam ang wife lalo na po usapin ng CHILD SUPPORT na alinsunod naman po sa batas? Ang wife po kasi ang umaayaw sa amount na ibibigay na suporta sa baby namin.

Ano-anu po ba attorney ibang kaso pwede ifile sa akin ng wife if uuwi na po ako sa pinas? baka kasi po magkarecord ako at hindi na ako makapag-abroad ulit.



attyLLL


moderator

there's no such thing as a crim case for damages. as i stated in one of your other posts, a charge of concubinage against you will not prosper because the acts were done outside of RP territory.

she might be thinking of psychological violence under VAWC, but that should prosper only against the husband because a relationship needs to exist between the offended party and the accused. nevertheless, you cannot prevent the wife from filing any case against you. the best you can do is defend.

remember you personally have no cause of action against the guy. all actions are in the name of your child with you just assisting him.



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nitz


Arresto Menor


the reason why po gusto ko may kasulatan and i'm pushing him to give support to our baby dahil po hinahanapan ako ng dahilan ng wife para mag-away sila mag-asawa at balingan ako ng galit ng husband niya at pati po baby ko dinadamay niya. Ilan beses niya po sinabi na hindi niya suportahan ang bata at idedeny niya.

nung sinabi ko pa sa kanya na buntis ako minura po ako ng minura. sinabihan po ako uminom ng pampalaglag. ng hindi po ako sumang-ayon sa kanya pinagbantaan po ako sabi niya kahit saan daw ako magtago hindi niya ako sasantuhin at kahit mabulok siya sa bilanguan. Sinisisi niya po ako at pati pagbubuntis ko dinamay niya. Naranasan ko po madepres at hindi makatulog sa mga sinabi niya at umiiyak dahil bakit dinadamay niya pinagbubuntis ko wala kasalanan sa kanya.

pagmagfile po ba ako ng R.A 9262 case sa father ng child ko, yung mga gastos po ba for ATTORNEY'S FEE and Litigation and other Actual Damages pwede po ba reimburse sa guy?

salamat po..

attyLLL


moderator

a reward of damages and attorney's fees won't be automatic, but it is possible. based on your narration, you may have basis for a charge of psychological violence under ra 9262, BUT if this occurred in another country, then it may not prosper.

this does not prevent a charge of economic violence. good luck.

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nitz


Arresto Menor

Please give me advice attyLLL meron po kasi dito The Foreigners Human Rights Center if pwede po ako magcomplain doon or ilapit yung problema ko sa kanila. Emotionally stress na po talaga ako at lahat ng pakiusap ko ginawa ko na po sa guy para lang hindi na umabot sa korte pag-umuwi na ako sa pinas.

a) The Foreigners Human Rights Center located in police stations at may free counseling service din po.. Sabi po they offer counseling and takes care of matters such as extortion, family abuse, overdue wage and violation of human rights, in order to protect the human rights of foreigners.


b) Any Migrant Center

ito dalawang NGO pwede po ba lapitan dito?



attyLLL


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go to both of them and inquire. it wouldn't hurt. there may be local laws that can protect you.

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resjudicata


Arresto Mayor

Under the Family Code of the Philippines, the filiation of legitimate children is established by any of the following:

PRIMARY EVIDENCE
1. Birth certificate
2. Admission of legitimate filiation done thru an affidavit or private handwritten instrument signed by the parent concerned.
SECONDARY EVIDENCE
1. Open and continuous possession of the status of a legitimate child
2. means allowed by Rules of Court and special laws.

Filiation of illegitimate children can also be established in the same way as legitimate children.

nitz


Arresto Menor

gud evening atty.

I was able to asked an AFFIDAVIT of what happened to us that we presented ourselves before the Philippine Embassy and the father is now reneging on his promises to give support to the child and that he refuses to sign our agreement and take the DNA Testing.

However, when we called his company and his co-worker ang sabi po na umuwi na siya sa dyan sa Pilipinas kaninang umaga lang.

Paano pa po ako magfile ng PETITION FOR PROTECTION OF FINANCIAL SUPPORT dahil wala po siyang trabaho sa Pilipinas?

Pwede pa rin po ba siya kasuhan ng Economic Violence or Withdrawal of Financial Support dyan sa Pilipinas pag-uwi ko? Obvious po masyado ang ginawa niya na para hindi niya masuportahan ang bata sa halaga ayun sa napagkasunduan namin dali-dali po siyang umuwi ng Pilipinas para po idadahilan na wala siyang trabaho dyan. Intention po niya to deprive his child of financial support kaya siya umuwi agad. May pera po siya kasi po malaki po nakuha niya Separation Pay sa Employer niya at sa National Pension Contribution dito. Supposedly his contract here will end sa 2011 or next year pa po. Nangangahulugan po ba na hindi na siya magbibigay ng supporta sa child namin dahil wala na siyang trabaho?

Paano na po yung mga actual damages gaya ng medical or prenatal expenses ko, childcare expenses pagnaisilang na yang baby ko at mga urgent needs? Wala na po ba kaming habol? Ang pagkakaalam ko po ay may conjugal properties sila pero may posibilidad po ipinalipat na nila mag-asawa sa ibang name para hindi po niya mabayaran ang ginastos at gagastusin ko po.

Pupwede ko pa rin ba ituloy ang kaso sa Prosecutor's Office or magfile ng complaint sa DOJ?

Sana po matulungan niyo po ako sa kaso ko para po alam ko po ang gagawin ko pag-uwi ko sa Pilipinas.


attyLLL


moderator

try to get proof of his income if possible. when you come back here, demand support. if he fails, file your complaint; maybe he will settle.

if not and the filiation issue crops up, then you will have to establish filiation and support together in a civil case.

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nitz


Arresto Menor

Thank you so much Atty. for the advice. I mailed him a copy of the AFFIDAVIT I secured from the Embassy with attached copy of print-out of his email and our chat conversation that he recognized our child and promised that he will give a financial support.

Atty. follow-up question for support..

Is this applicable also if I'm still pregnant? I asked him for prenatal expenses during my first trimester. But he accused me he said "hinaharas ko siya sa pera at dinadahilan niya po hindi pa lumalabas ang bata humihingi na daw ako ng pera" so I returned the money. I gave him all the receipts and the amount of expenses is enough what I asked him. I was so devastated sa sinabi niya nag-aagaw buhay po sa sinapupunan ko ang baby namin dahil dinudugo po ako at possible ma-miscarriage ganun pa sinabi niya.

Since the father did not sign the AFFIDAVIT FOR CHILD SUPPORT this make the agreement has no bidding effect. Now, can I demand for support again for prenatal and vitamins when I go home? Can I already ask him money to buy the commodities and clothes for my baby before I gave birth? I'm concern that if I will give C-section it's really expensive. And it's really unfair if I will shoulder all expenses.. Nagtitiis po ako magwork dito kahit 6 months na po tiyan ko at hirap na hirap sa work ko po para sa baby ko while the father gumawa ng excuse na umuwi at sasabihin wala siya work sa Pilipinas.

attyLLL


moderator

if there's an email where he acknowledges the child, then that's good evidence. yes, you can demand support again even if you gave back money before.

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nitz


Arresto Menor

attyLLL wrote:if there's an email where he acknowledges the child, then that's good evidence. yes, you can demand support again even if you gave back money before.


Atty. I already printed the email and our chat messages last week. However, when I checked my MESSAGE ARCHIEVE in YAHOO MESSENGER few minutes ago the father changed the name of his YAHOO ACCOUNT. Viewing the print-out which is the hardcopy and the Yahoo Messages saved iba na po ang pangalan. Doon sa mga chat namin nerecognized niya po na anak niya ang binubuntis ko. Pero ngayon lumalabas po gusto niya ikatwa ang bata at pinapasinungalingan na nerecognized niya po ang baby ko pinalitan niya ang name sa YAHOO ACCOUNT niya at gusto palabasin hindi kame nagchat or wala siyang sinabing ganun na inaacknowledge niya ang binubuntis ko. Kagaya din po ginawa niya nagpalit po siya ng ibang cellphone number. Na pwede gawing evidence for paternity and filiation..


Sa ginagawa po ng Father may Criminal liability po ba ang Father sa mga sumunod? (1) Conceals or abandons the child with intent to make such child lose his civil status. (2) Abandons the child under such circumstances as to deprive him of the love, care and protection he needs.

Pupwede po ba kasuhan ang father ng CHILD ABANDONMENT? Ano po ba a strong basis for a parent’s abandonment of his child at ano po ang penalty?


attyLLL


moderator

you have to find a way to preserve your archive and also prove he was the one using the yahoo account. use previous emails from him.

again, you have to first establish that he is the father before he can be made liable. good luck.

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