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1Qualified theft Empty Qualified theft Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:44 am

tierra pura


Arresto Menor

Ask ko lng po sna kung anung magagawa namin para sa kapatid ko pong nkkulong ngayon. Kinasuhan po siya ng kumpare nyang pulis ng qualified theft. Itinaon po ng complainant n hulihin ang kapatid ko ng Biyrnes ng gabe para hindi kami makapagpiyansa. sa pag aresto po skapatid ko wala pong warrant of arrest at ang insidente daw po ng pagnanakawa ay halos isang linggo n ang nakaklipas. Na inquest na po ang kapait ko last Saturday July 17, 2010 at hinihintay nlang po namin ang result ng Fiscal's Office. Maari po ba kaming mag file ng kontra demanda s pulis na humuli sa kapatid ko? Ang una ng kundisyon s a amin ay maglabas ng P20,000 cash kung hindi ay dadalahin nya kung saan ang kapaid ko at ng wala kaming maibigay ang sbi nya ay kahit P10,000.00 nalang daw muna para may pang bayad siya sa mga kapwa nya pulis na naabala sa kaso.

2Qualified theft Empty Re: Qualified theft Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:09 am

attyLLL


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the fiscal should have issued a resolution by now. was probable cause found? if not you can charge the arresting officers with unlawful arrest.

i do not recommend that you pay the police anything.

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3Qualified theft Empty Qualified theft Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:30 am

tierra pura


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Bumalik po kami s prisinto kahapon para manghingi ng referral para makpunta s judicial pero wala p raw pong silang copy ng kahit anu, nagbakasakali po kaming pumunta sa judicial pero wala rin po kaming napala ang sabi po sa information ay hidni p araw po nakakarating ung information sknila kaya hindi p nila magawa. nag advise lng po sila sa information na kumuha nlang ng piyansadora para siya nlang poa ng lalakad lahat par hindi daw po kami magpabalik balik. Sabi rin po nila n nasa P40,000.00 po ang bail for qualified theft. Wala po kaming pera. Ganun po b tlaga katagal ang pag kuha ng information? nakakuha narin po kami ng ibang requirements para sa pagpyansa. Hind lng po kami makkilos pa at hindi nmin alam anu next gagawin.

4Qualified theft Empty Re: Qualified theft Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:33 am

tierra pura


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Medyo alanagn din po kaming magtiwala sa kung sino sino nag aalok ng serbisyo dahil alam po naming maari po silan bayaran lng ng pulis na complainant ng kapatid ko. Marami rin po ang nakkakita na pabalik balik ang pulis sa Judicial at minomonitor nag bawat lakad namin, kahit n sa pag dalaw namin laging may nag ttip na kasamahan nya kung sino sinong bumibisita s kuya ko, at kung sinong mga nilalapitan namin para hingan ng tulong.

5Qualified theft Empty Re: Qualified theft Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:49 pm

attyLLL


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was an information already issued by the prosecutor and filed with the court? the amount of bail, if any will be written there. minsan talaga matagal when the accused has no lawyer pushing the fiscal to make a decision. the accused can file a letter inquiring to the status so it will be on record.

if you cannot post a cash bond,then your recourse is to deal with the bond companies. ask the court who are the accredited companies and make sure you confirm with their head office who is their representative.

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6Qualified theft Empty Qualified theft Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:09 pm

tierra pura


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thank you po sa advise, we will try to look for a bond company by tomorrow. Smile

7Qualified theft Empty Re: Qualified theft Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:42 pm

tierra pura


Arresto Menor

Ask ko lang po ano po mgandang gawin kase ung complainant po ay gusto makipagareglo sa kaso. Wala p naman po siyang sinasabing kundisyon sa pakikipag areglo sa kaso. Anu po bang magandang gawin sa mapagkkasunduan kung sakali? Ibig lng po bang sabihin na makikipag areglo ay inaamin na ng kapatid ko na ginawa niya talaga ung ibinibintang sa kanya? Until now wala p po kaseng lumalabas na information from fiscal hndi na namin alam kung kelan tlaga makakalabas ng kulungan nag kapatid ko po.

8Qualified theft Empty Atras na yung kaso Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:40 pm

dxlapid


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tierra pura wrote:Ask ko lang po ano po mgandang gawin kase ung complainant po ay gusto makipagareglo sa kaso. Wala p naman po siyang sinasabing kundisyon sa pakikipag areglo sa kaso. Anu po bang magandang gawin sa mapagkkasunduan kung sakali? Ibig lng po bang sabihin na makikipag areglo ay inaamin na ng kapatid ko na ginawa niya talaga ung ibinibintang sa kanya? Until now wala p po kaseng lumalabas na information from fiscal hndi na namin alam kung kelan tlaga makakalabas ng kulungan nag kapatid ko po.

Pagsinabing areglo na... hindi ibig sabihin inamin nya yung kasalanan. Yung areglo eh labas na sa korte o sa fiscal yung mga agreement. Mas mabuti yang areglo para matapos na. Kasi pagka umabot pa ng korte, magastos na. Pero dapat kung areglohan let it be clear na wala nang kasong isasampa at higit sa lahat dapat kakayanin nyo yung ipapabayad nila.

ps, pero kung mabigat ang kaso nyo at alam ng lawyer nyo na mananalo kayo wag kayong papayag na areglo. ilaban na lang para mabigyan ng leksyon yung pulis.

Hope this helps

9Qualified theft Empty Re: Qualified theft Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:31 am

attyLLL


moderator

i do not recommend an out of court settlement. I recommend that any agreement should be within court processes such as mediation and with approval of the court. your settlement will not lead to an automatic dismissal of the case.

qualified theft is not a continuing crime. he should not have been arrested. you have recourse against the police for unlawful arrest.

be more concerned about getting bail for your brother. has an arraignment been scheduled?

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10Qualified theft Empty Qualified theft Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:09 pm

tierra pura


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Inaasikaso n po namin ngayon ang paghahanap ng pera pang pyansa. According to some judicial clerk that we are able to talk ung nsa Information daw po ang bail is P40,000.00. Lumapit po kami sa isang surety company ang pinagreready n p kami ng P8,000 at P3,500.00 para s pagprocess ng mga papers. Isa p po sa mga concern ko isa ung tungkol sa mga magiging hearing kukuha po kami ng lawyer s PAO. (Sana makakuha kami ng tlagang maipagllaaban ang kaso po ng kapatid ko) Ung mga witness kse ng kapatid ko ay tinakot nung pulis n complainant na huwag magbibigay ng any statement against him or else ipapakulong din po sila. Ung iba pong witness ng complainant ay nabayaran narin.

May question din po ako regarding sa Referral slip na ibinigay sa amin ng pulis kung saan nkakulong ngayon ang kuya ko. Nkalagay po sa ibabang portion after facts of the
Case Action taken: File & detain
Time & date: 4pm July 17, 2010
Recommended bail P40,000.00
ask ko po kse kung tama po b ung inilagay nilang data kse ang actual po nilang paghuli is 9:30pm July 16, 2010 pass 8 in the evening and may nkalagay pong arresting officer samantalang ung mismong complainant nman ang nagposas at kumuha sa kapatid ko, ung inilagay po nilang arresting officer ay ni hindi hinawakan ung kapatid ko at pinabayaan nya lng bugbugin ang kapatid ko ng complainant sa harap ng mraming tao.

11Qualified theft Empty Re: Qualified theft Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:09 am

attyLLL


moderator

you should document the injuries of your brother. try to have the witnesses who saw the arrest of your brother to make affidavits as to the time and date of arrest.

the reason that they change the date and time is so that they will not be liable for arbitrary detention.

WITHIN 5 DAYS FROM THE FILING OF THE INFORMATION, FILE A MOTION FOR REINVESTIGATION! DO THIS TOMORROW. This can coincide with the filing of bail. Once he is out on bail, and the court approves the motion, the case will be referred back to the prosecutor and your brother will be given the opportunity to give his evidence to the prosecutor.



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