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falsification of public document

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attyLLL
azyqoy
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1falsification of public document Empty falsification of public document Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:02 pm

azyqoy


Arresto Menor

Hi...i am curious if it is considered falsification of public document if we submitted a faked marriage contract in a hospital just to comply with the requirement so that my daughter will be able to used my family name (she was born under the old family code ..march 2002)..the outcome, on my daughter BC it is reflected that we are married...
if its the case (falsification), what would be the penalty??what will be my action?
thank you..

2falsification of public document Empty Re: falsification of public document Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:23 pm

attyLLL


moderator

yes, it is falsification of public document. 4-6 years imprisonment.

are you still not married to the mother? or you weren't single in the first place?

for action, what end result are you looking for?

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3falsification of public document Empty Re: falsification of public document Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:45 am

azyqoy


Arresto Menor

we lived together for 4yrs...and now we're separated..and im married now to other woman for almost 3years... i still give support to my daughter for her basic needs, paid her tuitions, medical..etc...
in short,i am the one who carries the financial responsibilities because the mother is jobless from the very start...mabarkada...gimiks...
i also made researched...is RULE 108 applicable to me??
thank you.

4falsification of public document Empty Re: falsification of public document Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:50 am

southern star


Arresto Menor

how come you were not able to know that your status is "married" at the time you obtained a CENOMAR for the marriage between you and then other woman?

first off, ano ba ang gusto mong gawin? have the BC of the child corrected so as to reflect that you and the mother of the child are not married?

if that is so, better contact a lawyer... Smile

5falsification of public document Empty Re: falsification of public document Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:15 pm

attyLLL


moderator

you will still be liable for support to the child, but if you want to correct the child's birth certificate to reflect her as illegitimate, then rule 108 is applicable. you have to be careful though, or else you may be putting in writing that you committed falsification.

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6falsification of public document Empty Re: falsification of public document Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:21 pm

admiral thrawn

admiral thrawn
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on the hand if there will be no complainant why should you worry about changing the status of your child.

7falsification of public document Empty Re: falsification of public document Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:11 pm

azyqoy


Arresto Menor

i was not married to the mother of my daughter eversince...i jst produced a faked marriage certificate so that my daughter can use my family name...
before i got married to my legal wife, i get CENOMAR from NSO..meaning,i have no previous record of marriage..
yes,i want to correct the child's birth certificate,to removed the "date & place of marriage" reflected on BC..what is the procedure for RULE 108?
What do you mean by " you may be putting in writing that you committed falsification??
there is a complainant,the mother of my daughter..coz she's asking more financial supports aside from the monthly support,education,medical,etc...she's threatening me to file a complaint re falsification.
i need more advises.
Thank you...

8falsification of public document Empty Re: falsification of public document Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:05 am

southern star


Arresto Menor

the mother of the daughter was the complainant? Didn't both of you submitted the faked marriage contract? in other words, both of you committed falsification...unless she wants to compromise herself, she had better keep silent, otherwise both of you will end up in jail. tell her that... Like a Star @ heaven

9falsification of public document Empty Re: falsification of public document Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:51 pm

attyLLL


moderator

the falsification will not be cured by correcting the birth certificate. the records will still show what it was originally.

if both of you signed the birth certificate, then indeed, both of you should be held liable. or you can counter that it was the wife who did it because she did not want the child to be recorded as illegitimate, but you didn't want to marry her.

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10falsification of public document Empty Re: falsification of public document Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:19 pm

azyqoy


Arresto Menor

i am the one who is the informant,i am the one who signed the birth certificate...
what will happen?? what should i do??
is that mean that RULE 108 is not the solution??
what is the best way?
Thank you.

11falsification of public document Empty Re: falsification of public document Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:50 am

attyLLL


moderator

I would try to negotiate as fair a deal as possible with the mother, or defend as best you can when she files her complaint.

rule 108 is not your remedy.

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12falsification of public document Empty Re: falsification of public document Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:27 pm

azyqoy


Arresto Menor

how???so, would you think if i leave "as is" the birth certificate?? if she file a case against me, what is my chance??
thank you..
im worried,..

13falsification of public document Empty Re: falsification of public document Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:55 pm

admiral thrawn

admiral thrawn
moderator

bakit ka naman ide-demanda?

14falsification of public document Empty Re: falsification of public document Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:33 pm

attyLLL


moderator

rather than uselessly spend for a petition under rule 108, it would be better to acquire a lawyer to help you negotiate an agreement with your wife and to provide comprehensive advise on your possible defenses if she insists on filing a criminal case against you.

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15falsification of public document Empty Re: falsification of public document Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:41 pm

azyqoy


Arresto Menor

actually, we already have agrement for so many times....we have it in writing with the barangay officials...but again,walang ngyari...ilang beses na ring ineskandalo ang legal na asawa ko sa bahay namin, since i worked abroad..kya lahat ng gulo at eskandalo,asawa ko ang humaharap..
ginugulo kami dahil sa pera...and lately,i received a letter from the attorney..and accusing for the falsification of public document..
kung tutuusin,she doesnt need to demand more,coz, ako ang ngpapaaral at ngprovide ng lahat ng nids ng anak ko...di ko lng alam kung bakit pa sya nangugulo..since rule 108 is not my remedy,maybe i should wait for her petition..
thank you..

16falsification of public document Empty Re: falsification of public document Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:47 am

jovanni


Arresto Menor

both of you are at fault.. (in pari delicto) if she complains , then she might as well face the necessary charges..

17falsification of public document Empty Re: falsification of public document Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:28 pm

azyqoy


Arresto Menor

what will be my counter to her?? its reaaly hard...i was not aware of the consequences before...

18falsification of public document Empty Re: falsification of public document Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:46 am

enuhj


Arresto Menor

I have the same problem as azyqoy. The only difference is that wala namang magcocomplain sa akin. Im still with the mother of my children. same case din kami, gusto ko na maayos or ma alis yung date and place of marriage sa BC ng anak ko. What are the procedures po ba? Common na po ba itong issue na ganito sa local civil registrar? Kung magsa-submit po ba ako ng letter of request together with affidavit of no marriage sa kanila wala po bang magiging problema? may ganitong case po ba kayong alam na nag-aayos tapos nakasuhan kahit wala akong alam na magko-complain or may maghabla coming from the civil registrar itself? ano po bang magandang reason to state in my letter of request? hoping for your good advice. tnx!

19falsification of public document Empty Re: falsification of public document Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:43 pm

attyLLL


moderator

enuhj, you have no intention to marry the mother?

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20falsification of public document Empty Re: falsification of public document Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:46 pm

enuhj


Arresto Menor

meron po. kaso hindi pa ngayon. I still have plans of migrating. My main concern at the moment is yung BC po ng mga anak ko. Pano po ba ang magiging process and if ever mga magkano po ang magagastos sa BC ng dalawang anak ko. Thanks po.

21falsification of public document Empty Re: falsification of public document Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:27 am

attyLLL


moderator

you may also face the same problem that it will come out that fake documents were submitted and you may be made liable.

the proper way to correct the birth certificates is to file a petition in court for correction of entry of records. a request letter is not sufficient.

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